tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post5705892703282506876..comments2023-10-17T06:59:53.759-04:00Comments on No Cookies For Me: Spoilerific Discussion of Race/Species and Harry Potter...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-26742820376885528322007-08-04T21:23:00.000-04:002007-08-04T21:23:00.000-04:00Great discussion here! Been wanting to get into th...Great discussion here! Been wanting to get into this on my site, but expected that any suggestion these themes even exist in the book would bring an onslaught of "OMG WTF lighten up, you people inject race into EVERYTHING!" replies. So I'm glad to see other people discussing it.Jay Smoothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318645202258758441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-6339801309736800562007-07-26T07:42:00.000-04:002007-07-26T07:42:00.000-04:00oooh ooh!!!what about the part at the end where He...oooh ooh!!!<BR/><BR/>what about the part at the end where Hermione calls <I>herself</I> "mudblood"? with pride? <BR/><BR/>kind of reminded me a bit of efforts to reclaim the N-word and make it mean something different than what it did before, wrest the word away from relations of power that created it in the first place.<BR/><BR/>it seemed ill-advised to me, but then that's my view on the N-word Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-16912936674243085472007-07-25T04:57:00.000-04:002007-07-25T04:57:00.000-04:00*quietly clears throat*That was one of the biggest...*quietly clears throat*<BR/><BR/>That was one of the biggest issues I found lacking in the books. It was clear from the beginning that most of the characters themselves would be white, but at least there were hints here and there that the treatment of intelligent nonhuman creatures would become a problem in later stories. As you've pointed out, it's a safe substitute: speciesism for racism. <BR/>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-13784598664810651222007-07-24T18:50:00.000-04:002007-07-24T18:50:00.000-04:00I hear what you're saying, but I do think we have ...I hear what you're saying, but I do think we have to give Ron's change of heart more weight--he may have been a founding member of SPEW, but his disdain and contempt for Hermione's activism is pretty heavy-handed throughout the books, right up until this one. <BR/><BR/>In some ways, I wonder if part of the problem is that Rowling spread herself a bit too thing with the race/ethnicity stand-ins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-90397350620423133232007-07-24T16:05:00.000-04:002007-07-24T16:05:00.000-04:00Well, we don't, but what, in the book, would sugge...Well, we don't, but what, in the book, would suggest that Griphook would even consider doing such a thing? <BR/><BR/>His last act in the book is lying to his fellow goblins about what was happening, and pinning the blame entirely on Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Harry can tell that Griphook didn't trust any of them at all when he's grabbing the sword, and it's repeatedly stated that goblins don't Rex Libris https://www.blogger.com/profile/13666188771524753584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-4582288459988015072007-07-24T16:01:00.000-04:002007-07-24T16:01:00.000-04:00How do we know Griphook didn't return the sword to...How do we know Griphook didn't return the sword to the hat intentionally?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-37461634520224988612007-07-24T12:40:00.000-04:002007-07-24T12:40:00.000-04:00Yes! Even if Harry didn't solve the species proble...Yes! Even if Harry didn't solve the species problem right then - I mean, he was trying to put an end to Voldemort, and that's a pretty big job without adding more to his plate - the epilogue would have been a GREAT place to show that changes had been made. 19 years later, and there could have been a mention of elves - Harry could have told Albus, "Yes, son, I'm sure you'll be a good wizard no Chrissyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07392552248911691182noreply@blogger.com