tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post6431570665196868749..comments2023-10-17T06:59:53.759-04:00Comments on No Cookies For Me: Let's Have a Wake; Chivalry is Dead!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-39400586220404959412009-02-01T17:59:00.000-05:002009-02-01T17:59:00.000-05:00LOVED this, just started writing my own post on ch...LOVED this, just started writing my own post on chivalry and wasn't at all disappointed to find you'd captured many of my own thoughts. I'll open my doors, you open yours!Anya D. Nighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04741226045363884238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-8227571257682984982008-04-14T02:35:00.000-04:002008-04-14T02:35:00.000-04:00Rather late to be commenting on this, I know, but ...Rather late to be commenting on this, I know, but I can't resist pointing out that Neil Gaiman's charming short story "Chivalry" (in the <I>Smoke and Mirrors</I> anthology) wonderfully illustrates the idea of chivalry as a non-gendered concept. The grail-keeper in the story puts the knight through tests of virtue which have nothing to do with the strength of his sword-arm or with impressing Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-3086484301306101572008-03-19T19:42:00.000-04:002008-03-19T19:42:00.000-04:00This is a great post. I never knew about the orig...This is a great post. I never knew about the original usage of chivalry either.<BR/><BR/>To exposing feminism: <BR/><BR/>Just because a woman has no qualms with going against cultural programming to pay for her date, etc, doesn't necessarily mean that she subscribes to feminism. Labels such as "feminist" are created to neatly encompass certain worldviews for easy digestion, but they're not Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-73419282439859144942007-11-10T18:16:00.000-05:002007-11-10T18:16:00.000-05:00Great post, Roy!I must admit, I didn't know the or...Great post, Roy!<BR/><BR/>I must admit, I didn't know the original meaning of chivalry until I read this post. That being said, though, meanings of words do change and when someone speaks of chivalry, they are almost certainly speaking of the kind Bass is referring to. I think this is unfortunate and I'm definitely going to talk to others about this.<BR/><BR/>I would like to see the meaning Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-78573008294192672492007-11-09T16:53:00.000-05:002007-11-09T16:53:00.000-05:00hmmm...reminds me of when I was in a VERY remote a...hmmm...reminds me of when I was in a VERY remote area in Russia where I and a co-worker all but got slugged in the face so that a man could move our luggage because, don't you know, carrying heavy luggage might damage your uterus. And then our fellow male researcher said "It must be so nice to be a woman in Russia with all this chivalry". Gack! (By the way - came here from Jen & her Just Posts.)Wayfarer Scientistahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07996334636311497271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-20957739272286592312007-11-09T04:36:00.000-05:002007-11-09T04:36:00.000-05:00The snobographer said;-'Women who expect to receiv...The snobographer said;-<BR/><BR/>'Women who expect to receive "chivalrous" behavior from men without reciprocation live with the same binary gender role mindset that Bass does and should date men like Bass.'<BR/><BR/>Would you define such women as those who do not subscribe to feminism?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-2539387856473758352007-11-05T15:42:00.000-05:002007-11-05T15:42:00.000-05:00BTW, regarding Bass' friend who came home from the...BTW, regarding Bass' friend who came home from the bad date angrily lamenting the death of chivalry: I wonder what happened on the date that upset her so much. It seems Bass didn't bother to ask her.snobographerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11874569135368534339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-79696971574053446592007-11-05T15:26:00.000-05:002007-11-05T15:26:00.000-05:00"Exposing Feminism said... [Roy] said; 'I cert..."<I>Exposing Feminism said...<BR/><BR/> [Roy] said; 'I certainly advocate and encourage women to ask men out if they're interested, to pick up the tab or split the tab sometimes.'<BR/><BR/> Do you think women that women are open to this behaviour? What would you say to women who still expect to recieve 'chivalrous' behaviour from men without reciprocation?</I>"<BR/><BR/>* I'm a woman and snobographerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11874569135368534339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-16323691223976677332007-10-11T14:15:00.000-04:002007-10-11T14:15:00.000-04:00@Roy,Firstly, as an MRA, I am used to having discu...@Roy,<BR/><BR/>Firstly, as an MRA, I am used to having discussion forcibly closed or my opinions dismissed as 'misogyny' when trying to discuss issues with feminists. I have to say that, initially, I assumed that I would recieve this response from you. This was unfair of me. I apologise for the tone of my first comment here. I am grateful that you continue to be honest, open and polite in your Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-39205792385841651562007-10-11T10:44:00.000-04:002007-10-11T10:44:00.000-04:00It seems as if you are saying that 'chivalry' real...<B>It seems as if you are saying that 'chivalry' really only equates to common courtesy that both sexes should extend?</B><BR/><BR/>That's not exactly how I'd have put it, but it's not entirely incorrect. Courtesy is certainly a major part of chivalry, and it applies to both sexes, yes. <BR/><BR/><B>If this is the case, and supposing that a woman chose to ask a man out for a date at a restaurant,Rex Libris https://www.blogger.com/profile/13666188771524753584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-56271946842412037602007-10-11T01:23:00.000-04:002007-10-11T01:23:00.000-04:00@Roy - Firstly I would like to thank you for respo...@Roy - <BR/><BR/>Firstly I would like to thank you for responding to me. Although we appear to have opposing views, I am all in favour of healthy debate.<BR/><BR/>I would also like to confirm that I am not Bass :-)<BR/><BR/>It seems as if you are saying that 'chivalry' really only equates to common courtesy that both sexes should extend? <BR/><BR/>If this is the case, and supposing that a woman Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-82142783821424027812007-10-09T12:41:00.000-04:002007-10-09T12:41:00.000-04:00All I have to say is that you rock. Wow, you seri...All I have to say is that you rock. Wow, you seriously hit it straight on the nail head. I will continue to read your blog!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-48881161463344408552007-10-08T10:34:00.000-04:002007-10-08T10:34:00.000-04:00What Bass is referring to is courtesy that men use...<B>What Bass is referring to is courtesy that men used to extend solely to women, such as a compliment on the way a woman looks.</B><BR/><BR/>Are you Bass? <BR/>Personally, I think that Bass is looking back and imagining a time that never really existed. <BR/><BR/><B>Thanks to feminism, this kind of compliment is now seen as invasive, so men have stopped doing it.</B><BR/><BR/>That's patently Rex Libris https://www.blogger.com/profile/13666188771524753584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-46618299583834355792007-10-07T12:31:00.000-04:002007-10-07T12:31:00.000-04:00What Bass is referring to is courtesy that men use...What Bass is referring to is courtesy that men used to extend solely to women, such as a compliment on the way a woman looks. Thanks to feminism, this kind of compliment is now seen as invasive, so men have stopped doing it.<BR/><BR/>You seem to be talking about arranged marriage instead..?<BR/><BR/>There are postive arguments in favour of arranged marriage - like the low incidence of divorce, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-66773283114761910822007-10-04T18:49:00.000-04:002007-10-04T18:49:00.000-04:00Fab post!!!!Fab post!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-14801262000026485052007-10-03T22:49:00.000-04:002007-10-03T22:49:00.000-04:00I really liked this post. I like the ideas of the ...I really liked this post. I like the ideas of the principles of chivalry, but without the gendered crap. We can all be courteous, respectful, honest. To people of any gender.<BR/><BR/>(Happy Delurk Day, by the way. I'm delurking.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-48161058533957606912007-10-03T00:53:00.000-04:002007-10-03T00:53:00.000-04:00And then you get the men who are always joking tha...And then you get the men who are always joking that women have it soooo much better because none of the women they know have ever gone out of their way to open a door for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-26452366386155264242007-10-02T20:06:00.000-04:002007-10-02T20:06:00.000-04:00*applauds**applauds*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-10082689888375214822007-10-02T18:05:00.000-04:002007-10-02T18:05:00.000-04:00I know! I had no idea myself what it really meant....I know! I had no idea myself what it really meant. <BR/><BR/>As for the faux-chivalry this asswipe is referring to, honestly, I don't mind if someone opens a door for me -- I don't even mind if they're doing it to be "romantic." Anyone I'm going to be with romantically isn't going to have any notions about me being too weak to open a damn door, so I can take it for the sweet gesture it is and Jaclynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16545789903936561010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-32206236519056846082007-10-02T17:40:00.000-04:002007-10-02T17:40:00.000-04:00Great post! I wish more people would realize that...Great post! I wish more people would realize that chivalry is not a gendered concept...Fannie Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04296502470605119779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-17794022601607834872007-10-02T17:25:00.000-04:002007-10-02T17:25:00.000-04:00You know, that just sounds like plain old ethics t...You know, that just sounds like plain old ethics to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-168458041332941999.post-63217602693956195152007-10-02T15:32:00.000-04:002007-10-02T15:32:00.000-04:00I find it both sad and amusing that there are men ...I find it both sad and amusing that there are men who flat-out won't let me hold a door for them if I reach it first.Kate217https://www.blogger.com/profile/06715848742735302734noreply@blogger.com